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VP Debates Webcast live on the New York Times
posted by dag 3 months 1 week ago • 643 views
It's that time again. The debate is being broadcast live by all the usual suspects.
http://www.msnbc.com
http://www.nytimes.com

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It's amazing to me that she is complaining about the state of the economy considering her party was in charge.


written by dag  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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"Team of Mavericks" ... puleeeze.


written by dag  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Interesting tactic that Biden is taking the attack to McCain and not engaging with Palin at all.


written by dag  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Her tactic seems to be "I'm not going to answer your questions, I'm talking straight to the American people".


written by dag  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Has to. A lot of retards will see him as a bully if he gives her the kicking she deserves. I'm still expecting her to break down in tears half way through.


written by gorillaman  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Whats with CNN with that Men and Women + - ticker. What happened to Reps vs Dems thing?


written by Farhad2000  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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New York Times one is nice and clean, and goes full-screen


written by dag  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Ohh!! Healthcare taken over by the Federal government! FUCKING COMMUNISM IN AMERICA! MY GOD VOTE MCCAIN NOW.


written by Farhad2000  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Redistribution of wealth comrade. Where's my little red book?


written by dag  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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All Presidential debates need Quake Announcers.

BIDEN DOMINATING!


written by Farhad2000  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I know this is tasteless but Palin is wearing old lady panties. I'm sorry, these are the sorts of things I notice.


written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Sorry, I didn't see your thread when I made mine with the feed I'm watching.

I'm obviously biased, but Biden is going great guns in my view


written by spoco2  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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you should crosspost this to the front of sift talk, it's why I didn't see it...


written by spoco2  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Biden is completely dominating this so far for me, he is simply a far better debater then Palin who looks totally scared.

Biden smirks in the cut aways I see, like a bear thinking about all the various ways he can effectively maim a bunny.


written by Farhad2000  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I have to admit that she's not doing as poorly, (so far) as I expected. Much better than the Couric interviews. Debate camp must work.


written by dag  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^spoco2:
you should crosspost this to the front of sift talk, it's why I didn't see it...


OK.




written by dag  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^dag:
I have to admit that she's not doing as poorly, (so far) as I expected. Much better than the Couric interviews. Debate camp must work.


Except that she's just veering things back onto her pre-learned scripts... but the problem is the most people won't notice that she's just doing that.

And lying through her teeth on a number of points.

Urgh




written by spoco2  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Wall Street is the easy scapegoat. No one will blame the government for falsely propping up the housing market in order to keep the costs competitive. The marketplace isn't a place for government.


written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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She's not babbling enough. I wonder if they gave her some Ritalin™


written by dag  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^Farhad2000:
All Presidential debates need Quake Announcers.

BIDEN DOMINATING!


lmao! HEAD SHOT!!

oops - upvoted the wrong comment. That one's pretty good too, though.


written by jonny  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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There are no facts that say global warming is caused by man. Shut it, Biden! Our carbon footprint is small. Very small. Coal creates soot based pollution, Biden, which means when it cools in the atmosphere it drops from the atmosphere. There, I said it.


written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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She looks like she doesn't understand or believe alot of what she is saying. She is all over. Shaky.

I can't wait until they get into Foreign policy.


written by Farhad2000  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Ahh, don't talk about 'clean coal'... it's a myth... sequestration is just rubbish... *sigh*.

Better than looking for more oil, I grant you, but nooo, not 'clean coal'


written by spoco2  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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"drill, baby drill". [retch]


written by dag  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Government shouldn't be involved in marriage. Period.


written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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^agreed. I want to be able to marry my toaster.


written by dag  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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What the fuck?

Did war in Iraq start in 2007?


written by Farhad2000  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^blankfist:
Government shouldn't be involved in marriage. Period.


But what they're talking about is the benefits given to long term couples. You MUST give the same benefits to those couples of either sex that are together in a committed relationship.

If religion wants to take the word 'marriage' and not let others have it ok... but don't suggest that the government shouldn't guarantee the rights of couples for welfare, rights, etc.




written by spoco2  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^dag:
^agreed. I want to be able to marry my toaster.


And you should have a right to that if that's what you're into.




written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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"you (insert red herring fallacy here) and I respect you for that."

Ugh


written by mauz15  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^spoco2:
>> ^blankfist:
Government shouldn't be involved in marriage. Period.


But what they're talking about is the benefits given to long term couples. You MUST give the same benefits to those couples of either sex that are together in a committed relationship.

If religion wants to take the word 'marriage' and not let others have it ok... but don't suggest that the government shouldn't guarantee the rights of couples for welfare, rights, etc.


I agree. And those benefits should be nothing if marriage is the criteria to qualify for them.









written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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WTF she's getting some digs in. They need to get off who voted for what.


written by dag  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Biden is slaying her feeble points. Look how he broadens the discussion, she boxes it.


written by Farhad2000  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Biden lays Palin 2008!


written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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She called him Obiden...


written by NordlichReiter  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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NU CLEAR not NEW KILEAR


written by NordlichReiter  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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UGH! There you have it! McCain/Palin will stay in Iraq and eventually will attack Iran. Obama/Biden will put us in a war between Afghanistan and Pakistan. Goddamn them and their war mongering.


written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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why "Nucular" again why?


written by mauz15  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Oh my god she said "nookyular". That cinches it. Bush II, affected boogaloo.


written by schmawy  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Obiden .. haaha. Here we go with the Israel Stinking corpse thing.


written by dag  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Having your friends and allies ready to back "ye" up there.


written by NordlichReiter  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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-1 to Biden for not attacking the "Surge is/was a success." The whole point of the surge was to allow a dozen or so political agreements and compromises to be made, most of which have still not been made. Even in terms of its tactical success, it was only partial - people are still getting blown up on a daily basis.


written by jonny  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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They hate our freedom. Sigh. Think about that. Why would someone hate us because of our freedom. That's a ridiculous statement. What shallow people they would be to hate someone over that. They'd probably also hate breathing oxygen.


written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I had to hang out the washing, what I miss?

oooh, looks like the war... bugger


written by spoco2  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Fucking America and Israel. Get a fucking room already.


written by Farhad2000  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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What the fuck is this with a second holocaust.

Do you think that the Jewish people are going to let that happen? Why Do we have to help, I think they are capable of defending themselves very well.

They have good martial arts Krav maga.


written by NordlichReiter  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Israel's negotiation will most likely be air strikes.


written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Seriously.

What the fuck is with this media narrative like the war in Iraq started in 2007 with the Surge? What about the 2003? 2004? 2005? OIF1 doesn't even count it seems.


written by Farhad2000  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Oh f*ck, she's really trying to make it off limits to discuss past stuff ups of the government... dear god, if you can't look at the past, what's the point of going forward, you won't have learned anything.

Idiot

Good on Biden for attacking the point


written by spoco2  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I have to go back to work I'm on an early lunch break. Barring a major fuck-up, I'm predicting this will be cast as a draw, which means that Palin will be given "winner" status as she was the major underdog.

I'd love to read her index cards, probably a hell of a study system.


written by dag  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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There we have it. Nation building. Yay us! We're the best because we know what's best for everyone else in this world!


written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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If The republicans win, I'm emigrating to Dag's couch. Hope that's okay, Dag.


written by schmawy  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Dick Luger. That's a dirty sounding name.


written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Yeah Dag, the problem is the expectations of Palin were so very low going into this, that her not falling over and shivering will be seen as a win.

Biden is expected to be great at this, she isn't.

She still sucks in a huge way, but people aren't really looking at her critically, they're just looking for a really embarrassing gaff, if she doesn't make one then she'll be seen as doing a great job.... JUST BECAUSE SHE MADE IT THROUGH.

Set the bar low and be amazed that she can step over it.

So sad.


written by spoco2  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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She's wearing granny panties, too. I'm just saying. You can see the lines.


written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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No. She is just holding on. She needed a huge win. She didn't bring it. That is a loss. No matter what the mainstream media says. The voters see that when she is right next to someone like Biden.


written by Farhad2000  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Didn't biden just say why he voted for the war resolution.

...


written by NordlichReiter  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Hang on there Palin... vote for and then vote against... doesn't understand that?

Um...

Bridge to nowhere?

Anyone?

Anyone?


written by spoco2  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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heart beat away... mccain pun


written by NordlichReiter  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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McCain knows what evil is.

He's fucking Frodo on a quest to Mordor.


written by Farhad2000  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Oh my she's floundering now... faced with facts she doesn't know what to do.

Oh, I know I'll move on to talking about bullshit 'he knows how to win a war'

Such crap


written by spoco2  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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BTW

The surge cannot work in Afghanistan, its a different set of people and environment. Furthermore where are you going to get the troops from?


written by Farhad2000  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Schwamy, you need to save a cushion for me... and my wife.

Canada anyone?


written by NordlichReiter  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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what do you expect? a team of mavericks! lmao


written by mauz15  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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oh, I'm being so cute, I'm a Maverick, F*CK OFF.

Self calling yourselves mavericks DOES NOT MAKE IT SO!


written by spoco2  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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They need to understand that the fighting in Afghanistan is alot like Vietnam now minus the uniformed north viet army.

In a report on army times, they had a recent attack and loss of a fire base, below a high vantage point village.

The Taliban is actually attacking from Waziristan in full on offensives, they do not wanna give up the Opium trade.


written by NordlichReiter  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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"... and you can come with me through the McDonald's drivethru that I visit often, or you could frolic with me through the tulip fields in Idaho... Did I mention I'm an average down-to-earth guy?"


written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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LOL!!! She just made a shout out. That's going to be on the Daily Show.


written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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"Her reward is in heaven"? F*CK OFF. RELIGION HAS NO PART IN POLITICS

F*CK OFF RELIGION FROM POLITICS


written by spoco2  | 3 months 1 we